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娇柔恶卧塌里裂是吧？ 接着睡吧， 哈哈！ EB5 Investment Applications Continue to Grow While the Immigration Department has not Provided any Specific Guidance in Latest Memo The Immigration Department representatives that spoke at the September stakeholder’s meeting provided those with interest in the EB5 program with little regulation guidance. Instead, The Immigration Department has continued to provide investors, practitioners and Investment Regional Centers with mere memos and letters Los Angeles, CA (PRWEB) October 12, 2010 Stephen Colbert's testimony to Congress on September 25, 2010 dramatized with a sarcastic style a fundamental point about reform and codification of visas available to foreign farm workers. The points made are far reaching and certainly are relevant to even the large investment areas of I immigration. As with the agricultural visa, The EB-5 investment visas have little defined and codified regulations. On the other end of the Visa scale are the EB5 (http://darrensilver.com/eb5_investment_greencard4.aspx) investment visas.The EB-5 visa, as a brief history, the Federal Government created the EB-5 Visa in 1991 so as to encourage foreigners to invest in the U.S. The program required an investor to invest $1million or $500,000 in certain locations into a business in the USA that would create 10 full time jobs paying at least the minimum wage. Once done, the investor and his or her family would be entitled permanent residence in the USA, "Green Card." In 1993, the predecessor to the USCIS provided to potential immigrants a second option within the EB5 program, entitled the Regional Center (http://darrensilver.com/eb5_investment_greencard4.aspx) Pilot Program. In this new configuration of EB-5, the investor would invest into a pre-existing fund, or Management Company or Business as approved by the U.S. government. These Regional Centers are typically diversified funds or private Business development projects that allow for an investor to infuse a set investment and in return acquire a small ownership interest. The Regional Centers must utilize this foreign infused investment to create 10 U.S direct or indirect jobs.In 2004, the program was reorganized to allow for many levels of protection for the investors. The program was classified as a "pilot" program and has been extend by Congress continuously every 3 years.The numbers of approved Immigrant Petitions under the EB-5 Visa (http://darrensilver.com/eb5_investment_greencard4.aspx) program have been consistent over the last year, ranging from 400 to 600 applications annually. However, 2009 saw a dramatic increase in EB-5 petitions. Specifically, in 2007, the U.S. Citizen and Immigration Services (USCIS) approved 473 petitions for foreign investors. That figure rose to 640 in 2008, and jumped to 1,256 in 2009. Since October 2006, U.S. companies have raised more than $1 billion and have created over 20,000 jobs (directly and indirectly) through EB-5. The number of Certified Regional Centers has risen steadily from 27 in 2008 to 80 in 2009 and it is predicted that the number will well surpass 100 by the December 2010. As with the Agricultural visas and farm workers issues that have been discussed by comedian Stephen Colbert, the EB-5 program can benefit greatly from specific guidance from Congress. Issues abound such as where an investor's business vehicle or Regional Center produces a material change, job creation methodology shifts, Target employment locations are no longer targeted and many others.Mr. Darren Silver, a prominent Immigration Lawyer in the field, whose Firm Darren Silver and Associates (http://www.darrensilver.com) specializes in EB-5/Regional Center Immigration believes that Congress will need to intervene before these issues can be properly addressed. http://www.prweb.com/releases/2010/10/prweb4570494.htm <H1>Change in start-up visa law sure way to lure investment Proposed reforms by US lawmakers may help in the creation of more jobs, but could also be entangled in immigration politics. Photo/REUTERS By Gwen Moran (email the author)Your Email Message Send Cancel Posted Monday, October 18 2010 at 00:00 A push to raise awareness and change policy on a new visa that will let foreign entrepreneurs set up shop in the US if they invest has gained momentum.The EB-5 visa, which permits foreign nationals who invest at least $1 million into a US start-up or existing business and create 10 jobs, or which invest $500,000 in capital investment and create five jobs in economically disadvantaged areas, to obtain permanent resident status, commonly known as a green card was recently muted by the US Congress.Last December, representative Jared Polis introduced the Employment Benefit Act (HR 4259), which included reform of the EB-5. In February, senators John Kerry and Richard G Lugar introduced the Start-up Visa Act of 2010 (S 3029), which focuses on EB-5 reform, reallocating a portion of the 10,000 visas allowed annually under the EB-5 category and creating a new EB-6 category for immigrant entrepreneurs. While some of the details of the bills are different, the meat is largely the same: it amends current immigration law, lowering the investment threshold to $250,000 in equity funding from qualified super-angel investors or venture capital firms. Records from the Department of State, show that only 692 EB-5 visas were issued last year.Qualified super-angel investors need to meet certain Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) criteria to be an “accredited investor”. In addition, the angel investor has to be a US citizen and have made at least two equity investments in the past three years of not less than $50,000 each. Qualified venture capitalists must be US-based VC firms in business for at least two years, and whose partners are primarily US citizens. The firm must have made at least two investments of not less than $500,000 within the past two years. At the end of two years, those immigrant entrepreneurs who employ at least five full-time employees or who have either raised $1 million in new capital or earned $1 million in revenue will be given green cards.It could be next year by the time the bill sees real action in Congress, but it is already spurring plenty of discussion both on and off Capitol Hill. Attorney Angelo Paparelli, a partner in the immigration practice of law firm Seyfarth Shaw LLP’s Los Angeles office, says the proposed changes would make it possible for entrepreneurs to start business under this provision and qualify for citizenship. Traditionally, he says, the EB-5 has benefitted entrepreneurs starting retail, hospitality, and commercial construction enterprises. Sectors like technology typically run lean and “don’t employ 10 or more employees in the start-up phase,” he says. Paparelli also likes that the Start-up Visa Act requires investors who have a track record and licensure with the SEC.This may encourage immigration officials, who may not be fully versed in business theory and may reject business proposals they don’t understand, to be more lenient in their approvals.Powerful investorsWhile more than 160 venture capitalists have rallied behind the Kerry-Lugar bill, which Feld and his colleagues helped shape, there is also some opposition to the reforms. A piece published on BusinessInsider.com in March by Paris-based entrepreneur Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry entitled “The Start-up Visa Act Must Be Stopped” was widely circulated, and criticised the bill as putting too much power in the hands of investors, while saddling entrepreneurs with too much risk ― not only would their livelihood be at stake should the business fail, but also their residency status. Nothing much is likely to happen with either bill before the mid-term elections. But most who tout this bill emphasise the job-creation aspect rather than the political hot potato of immigration reform. Ms Moran is the is co-author of ‘The Complete Idiot’s Guide to Business Plans’. </H1>http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Change in start up visa law sure way to lure investment/-/539444/1034436/-/jkqix1/-/

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回复: 都给我醒醒，别睡了！起来！起来！开会了！看看这个第二条新闻有点意思。25万美元天使投资或股权投资在两年内创造5个就业机会，或者再募集100万的投资或者达到100万的营收，移民局则可以批准永久绿卡。这项投资需要美国本土天使投资人（公民）或者本土VC企业的配合，以及投资者须得到批准并成为“合格投资人”。该法案最早明年中才有可能经过会讨论并批准。 直观感觉是如果真实行的话EB5(6)门槛降是低了，但风险更大了。因为你不知道美国的个人或公司合伙人究竟会怎么样子玩你，具体细节还未知。我从这里看到的是美国的法律法案真真切切是在为美国利益服务，不玩半点虚的。就算该法最后不通过他们的出发点也是那样的。反过来想想中国可怜的劳苦大众啊。 但是这个小记写的报道明显有两处失误，一是他说现有的EB5在TEA地区的只要五个就业机会好了，不是50万美元但还是十个就业吗。另外一处是他说去年2009年移民局只批准了692个签证，USCIS网站写着：FY09, 4218 TOTAL EB-5 VISAS ISSUED。可见此记者没有深入了解情况仓促成稿。

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回复: 都给我醒醒，别睡了！起来！起来！开会了！看看这个EB6 几个月前就提出来了，等到批准还早呢？如果能过的话，我美国的 high tech startup 就能帮你们办了，哈哈实话说，25万美金对于美国硅谷的startup 算个球，就两个人一年的工资，而且，如果我能找到好的VC的话，根本不用EB5的钱，省的整天问我的钱在哪里？ 干扰正常经营管理。一句话，正经好的美国项目不缺EB5 的钱

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回复: 都给我醒醒，别睡了！起来！起来！开会了！看看这个EB-5比EB-6适合中国。

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回复: 都给我醒醒，别睡了！起来！起来！开会了！看看这个EB-5比EB-6适合中国。点击展开...对滴，startup烧钱太快了

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回复: 都给我醒醒，别睡了！起来！起来！开会了！看看这个最近来华招商引资的美国投资项目很多，他们大多是结合美国移民项目（EB5）来推广的，我们的国人需拿50万美元左右投资美国企业5年，5年后拿回50万即可以移民，但没有回报。以放弃投资回报，支持美国创造就业机会而换取美国绿卡，各取所需不失为一个快速移民美国的捷径。但是各位看官，真的是每个美国项目都是安全的吗？我们中国的投资人在放弃投资回报丶充满期望的耗费了时间精力金钱后，真的能安全的拿回投资本金，又圆上美国移民梦吗？ 美国目前的投资移民的项目共有160几个之多，首先我们要分析的是其中有几个项目是能保障我们中国投资人利益又能确保5年后兑现返款承诺的？答案是肯定的，的确不多。今天我们就拿目前在市场上强力推广的美国海湾基金GTA混合动力汽车投资移民项目来分析一下，大家就能看清美国投资移民项目的庐山真面目，在决定投资前更要深思熟虑。 美国海湾基金GTA混合动力汽车项目计划分几期共招募1000名投资人，集资5亿美元投资一家计划生产电动加燃气的汽车企业，目前刚刚完成研发和实验阶段。电动车是靠锂电池为能量的，而锂电池的原料是锂，目前南美是全世界产锂最多地方，已探明的全球锂的储藏量只能供两千六百万辆的电动车所需的锂电池，我们中国一年的汽车产量已破一千六百万辆，大家应该知道这样一个事实，至今世界上还无法量产纯粹电动车，大家要知道电动车在5年内就要达到量产是绝对不可能的。它是一个庞大的“吸钱工程”和系统工程。 即使假设最后实现了批量生产，但具体的城市相关配套工程，诸如充电站丶天然气充气安全保障和4S店等一切相关设施需要大量的资金投入。同时又要有充裕的资源与丰田丶宝马丶奔驰，甚至通用丶福特和中国的吉利去竞争，有实力抗衡吗？会有市场吗？有那么多的变数，我们的投资资金就有去无回了。所以电动车只是一个环保的概念和理想，如果没有大量的丶可持续的资金投入，这个产业一点机会都没有。混合动力车在将来很长的时间内不可能取代现在的汽车。 据说这个美国海湾基金GTA混合动力汽车项目来头很大，州长代表丶市长等台面人物全数来到中国招商引资。他们要让我们投资一个新的丶充满变数的产业，买一个伟大的梦给我们。这些政客们来华的实质，是来拉政绩，一分钱不往项目里投入，到中国摇旗呐喊一阵，用空手套白狼的手段捞政治资本。看看他们对我们投资人做的各种还款保证，即公司利润优先担保资金返还。GTA承诺五年后给予11%的回报率即投资者所持有的优先股可转换为GTA公司可出售的价值55.5万美元的普通股，或公司以50万美金将其优先股予以回购。GTA公司还计划在五年后上市。晕。。基于利润？没有利润怎么办？拿张股票？要知道股票不是钞票，股票的价值我们很清楚，每一个上市公司都会尽力做好公司，但很不幸不是每个股票都具备投资价值的，基于5年后能上市圈钱还债，更是天真，以后问银行借钱，只是承诺若干年后会赚到钱丶圈到钱就好了，不用做实质性的房产抵押了。 所以，我们中国的投资人看问题要看美国海湾基金GTA混合动力汽车项目的本质，我们投资人要的是投资本金的返还，我们不能真正的投资。试问，如果我们不去美国移民会去投资美国吗？以无息借款来换取美国绿卡是EB5项目保障投资人绿卡和资金安全的大前提。我们不要风险也不要回报，而是要保障。想让我们“赔了夫人又折兵”未免太低估我们国人的投资智商了吧？

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回复: 都给我醒醒，别睡了！起来！起来！开会了！看看这个这个项目卖点就是项目方承诺如果i-829不通过,投资款、律师费、行政费全退。我看就很多人冲这个去投资，但真的是不是那么好就不知道拉，那个承诺是不是口头承诺还是法律文件承诺呢？如果是法律文件承诺，和美国法律有没有冲突呢？要是有冲突是不是文件失效呢？这个真要找律师问问先，不过I-829退那么多费用我还真的第一次看到。

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回复: 都给我醒醒，别睡了！起来！起来！开会了！看看这个这个项目卖点就是项目方承诺如果i-829不通过,投资款、律师费、行政费全退。我看就很多人冲这个去投资，但真的是不是那么好就不知道拉，那个承诺是不是口头承诺还是法律文件承诺呢？如果是法律文件承诺，和美国法律有没有冲突呢？要是有冲突是不是文件失效呢？这个真要找律师问问先，不过I-829退那么多费用我还真的第一次看到。点击展开...A.他要是出具有真实效力的文件来承诺1829不过就退钱，那么直接被USCIS吊销RC资格，然后项目整个死瘫，没人可以拿到绿卡。B.他要是出具不了有真实效力的文件来承诺1829不过就退钱，那放屁谁不会？！非A即B，这个项目是什么玩意，大家看明白了吗？

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回复: 都给我醒醒，别睡了！起来！起来！开会了！看看这个EB6貌似风险大！怕怕。。。

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回复: 都给我醒醒，别睡了！起来！起来！开会了！看看这个A.他要是出具有真实效力的文件来承诺1829不过就退钱，那么直接被USCIS吊销RC资格，然后项目整个死瘫，没人可以拿到绿卡。B.他要是出具不了有真实效力的文件来承诺1829不过就退钱，那放屁谁不会？！ 非A即B，这个项目是什么玩意，大家看明白了吗？点击展开...美国EB-5项目就是这样纠结，项目往往是有密约的，有保障也不能拿出来给公众看，一旦叫USCIS查获，就全军覆没了

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不理闲事，不听废话，低头做事，抬头看路！均属个人观点，与所在机构无关最近来华招商引资的美国投资项目很多，他们大多是结合美国移民项目（EB5）来推广的，我们的国人需拿50万美元左右投资美国企业5年，5年后拿回50万即可以移民，但没有回报。以放弃投资回报，支持美国创造就业机会而换取美国绿卡，各取所需不失为一个快速移民美国的捷径。但是各位看官，真的是每个美国项目都是安全的吗？我们中国的投资人在放弃投资回报丶充满期望的耗费了时间精力金钱后，真的能安全的拿回投资本金，又圆上美国移民梦吗？ 美国目前的投资移民的项目共有160几个之多，首先我们要分析的是其中有几个项目是能保障我们中国投资人利益又能确保5年后兑现返款承诺的？答案是肯定的，的确不多。今天我们就拿目前在市场上强力推广的美国海湾基金GTA混合动力汽车投资移民项目来分析一下，大家就能看清美国投资移民项目的庐山真面目，在决定投资前更要深思熟虑。 美国海湾基金GTA混合动力汽车项目计划分几期共招募1000名投资人，集资5亿美元投资一家计划生产电动加燃气的汽车企业，目前刚刚完成研发和实验阶段。电动车是靠锂电池为能量的，而锂电池的原料是锂，目前南美是全世界产锂最多地方，已探明的全球锂的储藏量只能供两千六百万辆的电动车所需的锂电池，我们中国一年的汽车产量已破一千六百万辆，大家应该知道这样一个事实，至今世界上还无法量产纯粹电动车，大家要知道电动车在5年内就要达到量产是绝对不可能的。它是一个庞大的“吸钱工程”和系统工程。 即使假设最后实现了批量生产，但具体的城市相关配套工程，诸如充电站丶天然气充气安全保障和4S店等一切相关设施需要大量的资金投入。同时又要有充裕的资源与丰田丶宝马丶奔驰，甚至通用丶福特和中国的吉利去竞争，有实力抗衡吗？会有市场吗？有那么多的变数，我们的投资资金就有去无回了。所以电动车只是一个环保的概念和理想，如果没有大量的丶可持续的资金投入，这个产业一点机会都没有。混合动力车在将来很长的时间内不可能取代现在的汽车。 据说这个美国海湾基金GTA混合动力汽车项目来头很大，州长代表丶市长等台面人物全数来到中国招商引资。他们要让我们投资一个新的丶充满变数的产业，买一个伟大的梦给我们。这些政客们来华的实质，是来拉政绩，一分钱不往项目里投入，到中国摇旗呐喊一阵，用空手套白狼的手段捞政治资本。看看他们对我们投资人做的各种还款保证，即公司利润优先担保资金返还。GTA承诺五年后给予11%的回报率即投资者所持有的优先股可转换为GTA公司可出售的价值55.5万美元的普通股，或公司以50万美金将其优先股予以回购。GTA公司还计划在五年后上市。晕。。基于利润？没有利润怎么办？拿张股票？要知道股票不是钞票，股票的价值我们很清楚，每一个上市公司都会尽力做好公司，但很不幸不是每个股票都具备投资价值的，基于5年后能上市圈钱还债，更是天真，以后问银行借钱，只是承诺若干年后会赚到钱丶圈到钱就好了，不用做实质性的房产抵押了。 所以，我们中国的投资人看问题要看美国海湾基金GTA混合动力汽车项目的本质，我们投资人要的是投资本金的返还，我们不能真正的投资。试问，如果我们不去美国移民会去投资美国吗？以无息借款来换取美国绿卡是EB5项目保障投资人绿卡和资金安全的大前提。我们不要风险也不要回报，而是要保障。想让我们“赔了夫人又折兵”未免太低估我们国人的投资智商了吧？点击展开...纠正一下 EB-5项目可以保证绿卡，但是明文不能保证资金安全，必须At risk。要怪就怪美国政府，不能像加拿大那样有政府担保的纯被动投资，如果有，相信大家和我一样会立马办！

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不理闲事，不听废话，低头做事，抬头看路！均属个人观点，与所在机构无关回复: 都给我醒醒，别睡了！起来！起来！开会了！看看这个显然投资型的项目都不适合您，为什么不选借贷型的呢？

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